Hello Anna.
In accordance with Article 161 Housing Code RF:
1.1. Proper maintenance of the common property of premises owners in apartment building must be carried out in accordance with legal requirements Russian Federation, including in the field of ensuring the sanitary and epidemiological well-being of the population, on technical regulation, fire safety, protection of consumer rights, and must ensure:
5) constant readiness of utilities, metering devices and other equipment that are part of the common property of the owners of premises in an apartment building to supply the resources necessary to provide utilities citizens living in an apartment building, in accordance with the rules for the provision, suspension and limitation of the provision of utility services to owners and users of premises in apartment buildings and residential buildings established by the Government of the Russian Federation.
2.3. When managing an apartment building by a management organization, it is responsible to the owners of the premises in the apartment building for the provision of all services and (or) performance of work that ensure the proper maintenance of the common property in this building and the quality of which must meet the requirements technical regulations and the rules established by the Government of the Russian Federation for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building, for the provision of utilities depending on the level of improvement of the building, the quality of which must meet the requirements of the rules established by the Government of the Russian Federation for the provision, suspension and limitation of the provision of utilities to owners and users of premises in apartment buildings and residential buildings.
According to the Safety Rules for Gas Distribution and Gas Consumption Systems PB 12-529-03, the external gas pipeline is the one laid outside the building to the casing when entering the building.
The specified gas pipeline is under the economic control of the enterprise, unless otherwise specified in technical documentation.
Painting of the external gas pipeline is carried out according to the schedule. Gas pipelines from the point of intersection with the wall of the building, gas risers, branches from the risers to the first disconnecting device located on the branches from the risers, including disconnecting devices, is common property.
According to Clause 16-B of the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of August 13, 2006 No. 491 “On approval of the rules for maintaining common property in an apartment building,” proper maintenance of common property is ensured by the homeowners’ association.
Submit a corresponding application to the Criminal Code, and if refused, file a complaint with the housing inspectorate.
The question arose from the condominium association in connection with an inspection and an order for mandatory painting of the gas pipeline on the territory of the house.
The conditions for the transfer of housing stock are regulated by part 4 of article 7 of the Law of Ukraine “On the transfer of objects of state and municipal property rights” No. 147 / 980VR dated 03/03/1998. Thus, built-in and attached premises are transferred along with the housing stock, external gas supply networks
, as well as buildings intended to serve this fund. Facade gas pipelines
multi-storey buildings from the shut-off device at the exit of the gas pipeline from the ground to the facade of the building to the entry of the gas pipeline into the house refers to engineering home communications
.
According to 4.15. Safety Rules for Gas Supply Systems, approved by Order of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine dated May 15, 2015 No. 285, above-ground, above-ground and internal gas pipelines, as well as fittings must be protected from atmospheric corrosion in accordance with the requirements of DBN V.2.5-20-2001 "Gas supply" and painted (with the exception of internal gas pipelines of residential and public buildings) according to the requirements of GOST 14202-69 "Pipelines industrial enterprises. Identification painting, warning signs and marking panels" and GOST 4666-75 "Pipeline fittings. Marking and Distinctive Coloring ". Owner ( balance holder
and/or tenant (tenant)) must monitor the condition of the house inlet gas pipeline and its fastening, paint the specified gas pipeline at least once every 5 years (clause 1.14 of these Rules). Inlet gas pipeline - a section of the gas pipeline from the disconnecting device at the entrance to the house (when installing the disconnecting device outside the building) to the internal gas pipeline, including a gas pipeline laid in a case through the wall of the building (clause 2.1. of the Rules).
Note that the point of distribution of external and internal communications for the gas pipeline is the valve near the building (according to clause 2.3.7 of the order of the State Committee of Ukraine on Housing and Communal Services No. 76 dated May 17, 2005 “On approval of the Maintenance Rules residential buildings And adjacent areas"). On balance PJSC "Odessagaz" There are gas pipelines up to the valve (valve, shut-off device) at the entrance to the house. Gas pipelines after valve
(valve, shut-off device) included in book value buildings and are on the balance sheet of the owner (balance holder and / or tenant (tenant)) of the house and must be maintained at the expense of the owner (balance holder and / or tenant (tenant)) of the house, or a person who, under an agreement with the owner, maintains the house.
In addition, according to paragraph 5 of clause 5.10. of these Rules, the owners (balance holders and / or tenants (tenants)) of residential and public buildings, public utility and consumer services enterprises must maintain façade and internal gas pipelines in proper condition for operation.
According to the Regulations on the procedure maintenance intra-house gas supply systems for residential buildings, public buildings, household and utility enterprises, approved by order of DAHP “Ukrgas” dated July 30, 1997 No. 35, “ The balance holder must provide conditions for timely painting and repair of house gas pipelines
».
To carry out work to replace faulty elements of the gas supply system or repair them, the balance holder must enter into an appropriate agreement with a specialized gas supply and gasification enterprise that has the appropriate license and permit for this, for example, with PJSC "Odessagaz". Work on painting gas pipelines can be carried out both by the owner of the house and PJSC "Odessagaz" under the terms of the contract. PJSC "Odessagaz" will be able to fulfill the above works within the period and on the terms provided for in the agreement concluded with the owner of the house.
Accordingly, work on painting the gas pipeline after the valve must be carried out by the balance holder at home. If the condition of the gas pipe in some places leaves much to be desired, it is recommended to conclude an agreement between the condominium association and PJSC "Odessagaz" to conduct painting works external gas supply networks at home.
The question arose from the condominium association in connection with an inspection and an order for mandatory painting of the gas pipeline on the territory of the house.
The conditions for the transfer of housing stock are regulated by part 4 of article 7 of the Law of Ukraine “On the transfer of objects of state and municipal property rights” No. 147 / 980VR dated 03/03/1998. Thus, built-in and attached premises are transferred along with the housing stock, external gas supply networks
, as well as buildings intended to serve this fund. Facade gas pipelines
multi-storey buildings from the shut-off device at the exit of the gas pipeline from the ground to the facade of the building to the entry of the gas pipeline into the house refers to engineering home communications
.
According to 4.15. Safety Rules for Gas Supply Systems, approved by Order of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine dated May 15, 2015 No. 285, above-ground, above-ground and internal gas pipelines, as well as fittings must be protected from atmospheric corrosion in accordance with the requirements of DBN V.2.5-20-2001 "Gas supply" and painted (except for internal gas pipelines of residential and public buildings) in accordance with the requirements of GOST 14202-69 "Pipelines of industrial enterprises. Identification painting, warning signs and marking panels" and GOST 4666-75 "Pipeline fittings. Marking and distinctive painting." Owner ( balance holder
and/or tenant (tenant)) must monitor the condition of the house inlet gas pipeline and its fastening, paint the specified gas pipeline at least once every 5 years (clause 1.14 of these Rules). Inlet gas pipeline - a section of the gas pipeline from the disconnecting device at the entrance to the house (when installing the disconnecting device outside the building) to the internal gas pipeline, including a gas pipeline laid in a case through the wall of the building (clause 2.1. of the Rules).
Let us note that the point of distribution of external and internal communications for the gas pipeline is the valve near the building (according to clause 2.3.7 of the order of the State Committee of Ukraine on Housing and Communal Services No. 76 dated May 17, 2005 “On approval of the Rules for the maintenance of residential buildings and adjacent areas” ). On balance PJSC "Odessagaz" There are gas pipelines up to the valve (valve, shut-off device) at the entrance to the house. Gas pipelines after valve
(valve, shut-off device) are included in the book value of the building and are on the balance sheet of the owner (balance holder and / or tenant (tenant)) of the house and must be maintained at the expense of the owner (balance holder and / or tenant (tenant)) of the house, or a person who, under an agreement with the owner, maintains the house.
In addition, according to paragraph 5 of clause 5.10. of these Rules, the owners (balance holders and / or tenants (tenants)) of residential and public buildings, public utility and consumer services enterprises must maintain façade and internal gas pipelines in proper condition for operation.
According to the Regulations on the procedure for the maintenance of in-house gas supply systems of residential buildings, public buildings, household and utility enterprises, approved by order of DAHP “Ukrgas” dated July 30, 1997 No. 35, “ The balance holder must provide conditions for timely painting and repair of house gas pipelines
».
To carry out work to replace faulty elements of the gas supply system or repair them, the balance holder must enter into an appropriate agreement with a specialized gas supply and gasification enterprise that has the appropriate license and permit for this, for example, with PJSC "Odessagaz". Work on painting gas pipelines can be carried out both by the owner of the house and PJSC "Odessagaz" under the terms of the contract. PJSC "Odessagaz" will be able to complete the above work on time and under the conditions stipulated in the agreement concluded with the owner of the house.
Accordingly, work on painting the gas pipeline after the valve must be carried out by the balance holder at home. If the condition of the gas pipe in some places leaves much to be desired, it is recommended to conclude an agreement between the condominium association and PJSC "Odessagaz" for painting work on the external gas supply networks of the house.
How to correctly determine the boundaries of painting gas pipes in an apartment building? Before the ceiling tap, let’s say, our HOA paints it, and after that, the city gas service paints it? Or are all the pipes on the territory of the HOA painted by the HOA itself?
Mosgaz OJSC specialists answer
According to the Safety Rules for Gas Distribution and Gas Consumption Systems PB 12-529-03, the external gas pipeline is the one laid outside the building to the casing when entering the building. The specified gas pipeline is under the economic control of the enterprise, unless otherwise specified in the technical documentation. Painting of the external gas pipeline is carried out according to the schedule. Gas pipelines from the point of intersection with the wall of the building, gas risers, branches from the risers to the first disconnecting device located on the branches from the risers, including disconnecting devices, are common property. According to Clause 16-B of the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of August 13, 2006 No. 491 “On approval of the rules for maintaining common property in an apartment building,” proper maintenance of common property is ensured by the homeowners’ association.
Of all the “utility services”, gas is the most “nasty”. Let’s ignore the cost of connecting to gas networks, which does not seem reasonable at all. The gas pipeline may run right along the border of your property, but for the “connection” of two meters of pipes they will charge you more than a thousand dollars. This is what the “service organization” will take from you, in my case OdessaGaz. In addition, at your own expense, you will design and build a gas pipeline that will run through your site and to the appliances inside the house. Needless to say, both the design and installation of this gas pipeline are carried out by “licensed” enterprises who also want to eat, and eat well. In general, a situation where the seller of a product requires the buyer to build an infrastructure for the delivery of goods seems absurd to me. It's like buying a milkman a car so he can sell you milk in the morning.
What follows is even more interesting. After you pay for all this infrastructure for the delivery of gas to your home, they also begin to dictate to you some requirements for its maintenance exactly in the form in which it is convenient for the gas service, even if this contradicts your desires and existing standards.
For example: such a cute coloring of gas pipes in a poisonous yellow, which our gas workers love so much and which they want to see on all facades, regardless of their color.
Not the best aesthetic option.
We take DBN V.2.5-20-2001, Gas supply. Let's read. We find that “gas distribution points” are painted yellow, not gas pipelines low pressure for residential buildings. A gas distribution point is something like this:
For low-pressure gas pipelines used in residential buildings, only the number of layers of primer and paint is established, plus the type of painting material (which is logical - the gas pipeline must be protected from corrosion), but not the color. So the demands to disfigure your façade can be safely ignored.
Next interesting point- ban on " hidden installation» gas pipelines indoors. According to gas service workers, this means that all gas pipes inside your house should stick out in plain sight (and also be painted yellow, yeah) and you cannot sew them up with anything. When they told me this the first time, I simply shrugged it off, but during the installation process I was persistently taught the idea that these pipes on the walls are now part of my life and it’s better for me to make friends with them right now. I had to rummage through the same DBN again, after which it turned out that hidden installation of a gas pipeline is an absolutely permissible thing; you just need to provide access to it using some kind of removable panels and ventilation of the space in which it is located. Again, quite logical requirements - if you have a leak, it is in your best interests to smell it as quickly as possible so that the gas does not accumulate in a closed space.
So we are fighting the insanity of gas services with actions of civil disobedience - we paint the pipes in any color that suits us and hide them behind beautiful panels!
